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Are Pineapple and Papaya Harmful to Worms?

I received an intriguing email recently from Janet Walker, who is a member of the Earthworm Interest Group of Southern Africa (a group I am now actually an ‘international member’ of), and a vermicomposting professional in South Africa. I asked if I could share what she wrote, and she happily obliged.

One of my worm clients recently came to see me at our Organic Market to tell me that she had gone on holiday having fed her worms well to make sure they did not starve. She was away for ten days, and on her return she did not find any worms in her system. On asking what she had fed to her worms, we have now discovered that leaving a WHOLE pineapple, cut in half, is a worm digester. I did not know that pineapple contains one of nature’s best digestive enzymes, as does papaya and the poor worms got completely digested.

This is really interesting, and not something I was familiar with. I know that pineapple is extremely acidic and have always basically considered it in the same category as citrus as far as adding it to worm bins goes (ie only in moderation). I have never heard of it completely wiping out a population of worms however, nor was I aware of the fact that it contains digestive enzymes. I have heard that Papaya can be good to eat with meats for this reason, but again haven’t really thought too much about the potential dangers of adding it to your worm bin – it definitely does make sense though!

Anyway, I will be curious to see if anyone else has experience with these two potentially-dangerous worm foods.

Thanks again to Janet for sharing this info with us!
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Written by Bentley on July 22nd, 2009 with 16 comments.
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Get your own gravatar by visiting gravatar.com David
#1. July 22nd, 2009, at 5:23 PM.

Both pineapple and papaya (and pears, to a lesser degree) are excellent meat-tenderizers. I suspect that the enzymes involved are what killed and digested the worms. Cooking should denature the enzymes, though. A puree of any of the above makes a great quick marinade for beef short ribs or flank steak. I like one large or two small pears, several cloves of garlic, some fresh ginger and some soy sauce…yum.

Get your own gravatar by visiting gravatar.com Susan Bolman
#2. July 22nd, 2009, at 8:53 PM.

I’ve put lots of papaya in moderation over the last year and a half. What our local worm guru in Hawaii warned us of when starting is that while papaya and rind are fine, the seeds act as a birth control measure. She says they have a chemical that sterilizes the worms. I’ve never added the seeds. I’m not really interested in finding out for myself!

My worms have always been able to get away from the papaya if they wanted and I haven’t noticed them doing so.

I hear dead worms disintegrate pretty quickly. I wonder if it was the pH that did them in and then the local bin inhabitants got to enjoy the feast? I can see them all being unrecognizable after 10 days.

Get your own gravatar by visiting gravatar.com Jennifer S
#3. July 22nd, 2009, at 9:58 PM.

I have put whole pineapples in my bin without any negative side effects. I don’t eat papaya, but I have put both citrus and onion into my bins without problems. Onions do take forever to break down.

My worms are rebels – they live in a plastic bin outdoors in Florida. They also get water added to the system now and then to help with evaporative cooling.

Get your own gravatar by visiting gravatar.com Bob Packard
#4. July 22nd, 2009, at 11:08 PM.

Oh, Oh! I think I see a new experiment about to start up.

Get your own gravatar by visiting gravatar.com Alan Lum
#5. July 23rd, 2009, at 4:06 AM.

Aloha form Hawaii! I put both types of fruit in my large bins. I age the fruit and add them without any hesitation. The pineapple bottoms and rough surface provide a nice environment for young worms. I often find worm balls under pineapple bottoms like you often fine under watermelon. As for papaya, I have heard about the seeds being birth control, however, my bins are thriving even though some seeds have been added.

Get your own gravatar by visiting gravatar.com Bentley
#6. July 23rd, 2009, at 7:35 PM.

Wow – thanks everyone for sharing your thoughts/experiences!
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Get your own gravatar by visiting gravatar.com Mark in Santa Barbara
#7. July 24th, 2009, at 12:58 PM.

I’ve heard that papaya seeds are somewhat effective as a human contraceptive, but I’d think the human and worm reproductive systems are so different that I’d be surprised if papaya seeds had a similar contraceptive effect in worms. Just guessing, though.

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#8. July 25th, 2009, at 1:28 PM.

Contraceptive?Yikes. There’s something I wouldn’t count on! As for pineapple, it’s definitely an age-old kitchen fact (refugee from 20+ years in the food biz here) that if you try to cook with fresh pineapple, you best cook it well, to destroy those enzymes (almost all denature quickly in heat). e.g. any decent recipe for pineapple upside-down cake will either suggest canned and warn about how to use fresh – else you end up with a soupy pudding-like mess in your cast iron skillet. Easy to see how the proteins that make up a worms “skin” would be easily break down in this environment. Alan’s success must be attributed to the aging – hard to see how it would work otherwise – chemistry is chemistry, after all!

Get your own gravatar by visiting gravatar.com Sean in Plano, Texas
#9. July 27th, 2009, at 7:15 AM.

I’ve added fresh pineapple scraps to my small population(100~ red worms) and slightly larger population(200~ red worms) and they seem to really enjoy the pineapple. Somehow I think the chemistry is a little more complex. Maybe the mucus coating of the worm protects them fairly well to where the enzymes aren’t too effective against them.

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#10. July 28th, 2009, at 7:22 AM.

I make papaya smoothies all the time so it’s not unusual for me to stock up heavily on papaya and inevitably some of them rot before I can get to them. I’ve dumped two large whole papayas into my worm bin and the worms totally destroyed the papaya. I find it hard to believe that the worms were “digested”. Unless if that woman’s bin was just slightly larger than the pineapple itself it shouldn’t have killed off all the worms.

Worms when they die degrade really fast so my guess is something else happened (like probably overfeeding with inadequate air circulation) that did the worms in.

Get your own gravatar by visiting gravatar.com Bentley
#11. July 30th, 2009, at 1:35 PM.

Wow – this has turned out to be quite the hot topic!

BOB- I think you might be right. Perhaps a pineapple/papaya challenge IS in order.
:-)

Get your own gravatar by visiting gravatar.com Andy
#12. July 30th, 2009, at 3:14 PM.

Maybe someone was jealous of your worms and then stole them while you were on vacation….have any neighbors who like to fish?

Get your own gravatar by visiting gravatar.com Erica
#13. July 31st, 2009, at 5:24 AM.

My worms are voracious with all fruits, but especially seem to love pineapple and melon, which we eat frequently.

I now grind up my worm food, but for years just put in the pineapple rinds and hearts without aging them. The worms would often be found the next day happily (or so I think) huddled under the rinds, and would hang out there until the rinds were finished off. As with the rest of the family, for the worms pineapple is a favorite food.

Get your own gravatar by visiting gravatar.com Bay
#14. October 27th, 2009, at 9:15 PM.

I recently conducted an experiment with worms. I fed one of my groups of worms tri-tip, and those worms I believe disintegrated unless they crawled out and are in my house. The other two groups did not disintegrate. One i fed lettuce, the other i fed paper. I’m just curious if worms can actually disintegrate.

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#15. November 3rd, 2009, at 8:08 PM.

ANDY – Definitely a possibility. Alternatively, one can also NEVER rule out alien abduction! Maybe ‘we are not alone’ in the realization of just how cool these worms are!
;-)
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ERICA – Very interesting. Thanks for chiming in
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BAY – What is “tri-tip”?

Get your own gravatar by visiting gravatar.com Bay
#16. November 6th, 2009, at 3:33 PM.

Tri-tip is beef-steak. (Cooked).

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