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		By: Tracy M		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tracy M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 20:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I’m glad Steve stepped up and did that two tailed analysis thing!In the south that’s dual exhaust with a crossover pipe to increase horsepower.
I was gonna comment that the melon could make a gob of worms!&quot;

Now see, I&#039;d have gone with the 3 toed Alpha test but Steve chose what he did and I&#039;m good with that!   lol]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m glad Steve stepped up and did that two tailed analysis thing!In the south that’s dual exhaust with a crossover pipe to increase horsepower.<br />
I was gonna comment that the melon could make a gob of worms!&#8221;</p>
<p>Now see, I&#8217;d have gone with the 3 toed Alpha test but Steve chose what he did and I&#8217;m good with that!   lol</p>
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		By: LARRY D.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LARRY D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 17:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m glad Steve stepped up and did that two tailed analysis thing!In the south that&#039;s dual exhaust with a crossover pipe to increase horsepower.
 I was gonna comment that the melon could make a gob of worms!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad Steve stepped up and did that two tailed analysis thing!In the south that&#8217;s dual exhaust with a crossover pipe to increase horsepower.<br />
 I was gonna comment that the melon could make a gob of worms!</p>
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		By: Steve K		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 16:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If you drop it to 3 hatchlings per cocoon (48 total), then the differences are pretty much the same, though you do get a small effect of cold treatment in the cardboard-only groups.  Still, there was no effect of cold in the mellon-fed groups, and mellon feeding was still effective in the cold-treated or room temp tubs.  

As you mentioned earlier, it&#039;s hard to know whether it was the food source, or just that there was more moisture in mellon-fed tubs.  Regardless, these worms appear to have hatched more than the ones in cardboard-only.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you drop it to 3 hatchlings per cocoon (48 total), then the differences are pretty much the same, though you do get a small effect of cold treatment in the cardboard-only groups.  Still, there was no effect of cold in the mellon-fed groups, and mellon feeding was still effective in the cold-treated or room temp tubs.  </p>
<p>As you mentioned earlier, it&#8217;s hard to know whether it was the food source, or just that there was more moisture in mellon-fed tubs.  Regardless, these worms appear to have hatched more than the ones in cardboard-only.</p>
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		By: Bentley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bentley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 16:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah - what he said!
:lol:
WOW - that was pretty impressive, Steve! I had zero expectations of there being any hope for an actual analysis of the results! Thanks for taking the time to do that!
Question - would it make a difference if we assumed that the average expected hatching rate would be 3 per cocoon (closer to the number I&#039;ve come across in the worm composting literature)?
Statistics has NEVER been my strong suit - and I&#039;ve hated it as a result. But this is COOL!
Thanks again
8)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah &#8211; what he said!<br />
😆<br />
WOW &#8211; that was pretty impressive, Steve! I had zero expectations of there being any hope for an actual analysis of the results! Thanks for taking the time to do that!<br />
Question &#8211; would it make a difference if we assumed that the average expected hatching rate would be 3 per cocoon (closer to the number I&#8217;ve come across in the worm composting literature)?<br />
Statistics has NEVER been my strong suit &#8211; and I&#8217;ve hated it as a result. But this is COOL!<br />
Thanks again<br />
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		By: Steve K		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 15:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bentley,

It&#039;s a little tricky to do a comparison, because we don&#039;t know whether more worms hatched or more worms survived.  However, if we make some assumptions, we can run a z test of proportions.  

1. These numbers reflect hatching, not death
2. The worms did not reproduce
3. The ideal number of hatchlings is 16 cocoons x 4 worms per cocoon = 64

Using the ideal number of hatchlings as the sample size (64, but it’s the same if you assume 8/cocoon), we can convert the number of worms per treatment into a percentage of the ideal (for example, RT-cardboard is 24/64 or 37.5% successful hatching at day 78 post treatment).  

Comparing the percentages with a 2-tailed z test, we find that mellon increased worm hatching to a statistically significant degree in the room temperature tub (z = 3.19).  Mellon had no effect in the cold-treated tub (z = 0.89).  Overall, cold treatment had no effect in either the bedding-only (z = 1.42) or mellon-fed group (z = 0.55).  I ran the numbers for d15 (May 2 update), and they did not differ from one another, which is not surprising given that the range of 6-9 was so tight.

As you said, we would have to repeat the experiment to know anything for sure.  That said, these preliminary data indicate that adding a food source does more to increase hatching rates than brief cold exposure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bentley,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a little tricky to do a comparison, because we don&#8217;t know whether more worms hatched or more worms survived.  However, if we make some assumptions, we can run a z test of proportions.  </p>
<p>1. These numbers reflect hatching, not death<br />
2. The worms did not reproduce<br />
3. The ideal number of hatchlings is 16 cocoons x 4 worms per cocoon = 64</p>
<p>Using the ideal number of hatchlings as the sample size (64, but it’s the same if you assume 8/cocoon), we can convert the number of worms per treatment into a percentage of the ideal (for example, RT-cardboard is 24/64 or 37.5% successful hatching at day 78 post treatment).  </p>
<p>Comparing the percentages with a 2-tailed z test, we find that mellon increased worm hatching to a statistically significant degree in the room temperature tub (z = 3.19).  Mellon had no effect in the cold-treated tub (z = 0.89).  Overall, cold treatment had no effect in either the bedding-only (z = 1.42) or mellon-fed group (z = 0.55).  I ran the numbers for d15 (May 2 update), and they did not differ from one another, which is not surprising given that the range of 6-9 was so tight.</p>
<p>As you said, we would have to repeat the experiment to know anything for sure.  That said, these preliminary data indicate that adding a food source does more to increase hatching rates than brief cold exposure.</p>
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		By: Bentley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bentley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 14:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oops - didn&#039;t see your mention of greeting cards! Great minds DO think alike, Steve! LOL]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops &#8211; didn&#8217;t see your mention of greeting cards! Great minds DO think alike, Steve! LOL</p>
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		By: LARRY D.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LARRY D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 14:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re right Steve.It looks like he was practicing spelling love,using the baby worms to make the word! Pretty cool postage stamp or letterhead idea too.You can just tell Bentley doodles around drawing worm art.He calls them wormalisa&#039;s and signs them with worm kaligraphy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right Steve.It looks like he was practicing spelling love,using the baby worms to make the word! Pretty cool postage stamp or letterhead idea too.You can just tell Bentley doodles around drawing worm art.He calls them wormalisa&#8217;s and signs them with worm kaligraphy.</p>
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		By: Bentley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bentley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 14:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Haha! You&#039;ve exposed my next RWC venture, Steve! Vermicomposting greeting cards! lol
Seriously though, what looks like &quot;love&quot; (and I definitely thought the same thing, by the way) is actually part of &quot;cantaloupe&quot;, and it was just a fragment of the experimental notes I was jotting down. I figured it might provide some scale so people could see how small the worms really were!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha! You&#8217;ve exposed my next RWC venture, Steve! Vermicomposting greeting cards! lol<br />
Seriously though, what looks like &#8220;love&#8221; (and I definitely thought the same thing, by the way) is actually part of &#8220;cantaloupe&#8221;, and it was just a fragment of the experimental notes I was jotting down. I figured it might provide some scale so people could see how small the worms really were!</p>
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		By: Steve K		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 14:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The third photo looks like baby worms, superimposed over the word &quot;Love&quot;.  Is this part of the adverstizing campaign for the Forest Green Worm Inn Spa and Vermi-Retreat, or a sneak peak at Bentley&#039;s vermi-greeting card business?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The third photo looks like baby worms, superimposed over the word &#8220;Love&#8221;.  Is this part of the adverstizing campaign for the Forest Green Worm Inn Spa and Vermi-Retreat, or a sneak peak at Bentley&#8217;s vermi-greeting card business?</p>
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		By: Nic		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 22:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[lol]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol</p>
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