First of all, when it comes to lechate which is liquid dripping from the waste put into the bin, if you do some research, most people suggest not using that on your edible plants due to the fact that the liquid did not go through the worms system and can carry pathogens harmful to your plants, which we end up ingesting.

To me, I think John has gotten too big for his own britches. If he were professional about his criticism, there is no way you call any product a POS. Being that is the language he used, therefore he is the POS.

What ever problem he had with the Urban Worm Bag, he should have contacted Steve to let him know and see what can be done about the problem. Using his big ego to criticize a product without contacting the manufacturer or distributor is completely unprofessional and he should be called out for it.

I have both the Hungry Bin and the Urban Worm Bag and personally I much prefer the Urban Worm Bag over the Hungry Bin.

Not only that, Steve from Urban Worm Bag backs up his product 100% and should you need advice he is there for you. Unlike the Hungry Bin company, once the sale is made good luck getting the support should you need it. In Canada, they have a sales rep here who sells the bins, but as far as knowledge is concerned, I would have to say Steve knows a heck of a lot more than the people I have dealt with on the Hungry Bin.

To me all professionalism went out the door and that will be the last time I ever watch any of his videos. I have no idea whether he is educating us or is he out to promote companies he has relationships with. Are we getting an unbiased opinion or are we getting a marketing promotion from John due to his relationship with the company?

All I can say is I hope Steve continues his great support within the worm composting industry and wish him all the best in the future.

If tens of thousands of people ended up badmouthing John I’d be shocked – I certainly don’t have that sort of influence – but yes, that would certainly make him sit up and take notice (assuming he isn’t already).

I definitely “get” the negative review in general. He walked into a situation that resulted in him being given a very bad “first impression” of the UWB. And the “POS” “…should be ashamed of themselves” stuff was perhaps just an immediate gut reaction that got verbalized a bit too quickly.

In general, John seems like a very reasonable guy – and I think he even corrected something on Steve’s request (think he had the wrong product name in the title originally, or something like that). So, yes hopefully he circles back later on to review the system again, and provides more of a balanced, constructive criticism. Maybe it will even end up being a “bad press is good press” situation for Steve in the end – and maybe also an important reminder to keep working on improving the stand design.
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Hey Shaul – any “freaking out” you picked up from my post stems from the fact that John basically just walked into a situation with zero prior knowledge about the product and product creator, and made accusations based on a very limited amount of information he was given. When you have the sort of influence John has, you need to be a bit more careful about these sorts of things. That’s potentially someone’s livelihood.

In Steve’s case, I’m not worried – but the bottom-line is it really rubbed me the wrong way, and I wanted to share my opinion about it.

As I said, the stand claim was perfectly valid – and it’s important for people to keep letting Steve know about it if it continues to be a problem (version 2 i definitely better than version 1 anyway). I haven’t had issues with the stands – but I don’t really move my UWB around at all.